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Post by foxhound3857 on Sept 22, 2016 17:20:31 GMT
As we all know, one of the founding concepts that Overtale is built upon is Frisks sacrifice, how they willingly gave up their own SOUL in the ultimate act of love, so that Asriel could have another chance at a life unfairly stolen from him once before.
Overtale is, as I understand it, set 15 years after these events, Frisks sacrifice and monsters exodus from the Underground. And from what I've seen so far, little to no information has been mentioned/given as to how small or large of a role Frisk (or Chara) will play in the story, if they are even going to be mentioned at all. And given that, I wonder how Frisks relationship with Asriel is going to be handled if they ARE present in the story, if Asriel and the rest of the original cast have forgotten about them at this point, or if, like in Dreemurr Reborn, Asriel sees Frisk as a friend/sibling, or whether or not Asriel is able to commune with them in spirit, since Frisks guiding consciousness would still be there with him.
I know that Overtale is only loosely based on Dreemurr Reborn, but I'd like to think that Asriel would not have forgotten about them (nor Toriel, Asgore, or any of the others), and that they are going to be present in the story in at least some manner. Maybe Frisk will play a part in the Pacifist route, and Chara will play a part in the Genocide route?
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Post by TREE3 on Sept 22, 2016 18:17:34 GMT
I can actually answer this one (it's a very good question, after all). Frisk does not exist as a conscious entity in the Overtale canon. They are not a voice in Asriel's head, they are not considered a second person by anyone else, they are, quite simply, dead.
As far as I know, this decision was due to narrative reasons (ie, the devs wanted to focus on Asriel's character without the monkey-wrench of Frisk thrown in at all times).
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Post by foxhound3857 on Sept 22, 2016 18:27:53 GMT
I can actually answer this one (it's a very good question, after all). Frisk does not exist as a conscious entity in the Overtale canon. They are not a voice in Asriel's head, they are not considered a second person by anyone else, they are, quite simply, dead. As far as I know, this decision was due to narrative reasons (ie, the devs wanted to focus on Asriel's character without the monkey-wrench of Frisk thrown in at all times). So it's unlikely that Frisk or Chara will be given anything more than a passing mention in the storyline, possibly to set some background for the premise? Maybe Frisk has a grave or a memorial of some kind that their friends visit every now and then. I'd like to think that they weren't just "forgotten" by everyone, especially since it was largely their efforts which led to monsterkind being free'd from their imprisonment in the Underground. And Asriel himself even said once, "You're the type of friend I wish I always had, Frisk."
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Post by TREE3 on Sept 22, 2016 21:38:55 GMT
Just because Frisk is dead doesn't mean nobody cares, necessarily. No clue about Chara.
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Post by fecyrineu on Sept 22, 2016 22:21:36 GMT
Just because Frisk is dead doesn't mean nobody cares, necessarily. No clue about Chara. Well, in the original undertale, everyone thinks chara has been dead since Asriel died. Even the player will think that Chara has been dead if they did not go through genocide. Im preety sure Chara will be mentioned, but them will not be present in the game, the same for Frisk. But then again, all of this is speculation. We might be completely wrong.
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Post by Marshy on Sept 25, 2016 14:09:45 GMT
I do recall Adam saying that both flowey and Chara have been laid to rest. In the sense that, they aren't factors in the narrative
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Post by Nightmare on Sept 25, 2016 14:54:57 GMT
When you think about it, what they did in the past is still affecting the present greatly so... it IS a factor in the narrative.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 4:48:44 GMT
incase your wondering about how frisk would be portrayed in this game.
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Post by Victuz on Sept 27, 2016 13:41:45 GMT
Just because Frisk is dead doesn't mean nobody cares, necessarily. No clue about Chara. About Chara, I saw a comic in "A Dreamer Reborn" ( The Visit) that Asriel was visiting Chara's grave and talking to... Later he left from what looks like, a chocolate bar (or something) and a bouquet of flowers in memory of Chara. In the end he left the place and came back to the city or the Underground, after that it seems we see a silhouette of someone behind the wall he had passed, pick up that chocolate bar, eat it and throw the packing into the trash. I would say maybe Chara came back from the dead? Or a new character will be present in Overtale? (Sorry for my bad english, I'm not a native speaker)
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Post by TREE3 on Sept 27, 2016 16:09:16 GMT
That was certainly an excellent comic, but it has nothing to do with Overtale.
Dreemurr Reborn, while serving as the project's inspiration, has little in common with the game's story.
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Post by Victuz on Sept 27, 2016 16:34:55 GMT
I discovered that yesterday while searching for Fatz comics on his tumblr. In one of his posts, he written that he don't gets angry with Overtale game itself, just with the fan-base trying to compare the game story with his comics universe. But he makes clear he wishes the best for the project and its developer team, and it's ok if the team decide to make their own timeline.
Good to know, isn't?
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